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The Allaamah Ibn Baaz clarified that those that claimed to be ignorant of Tawheed are of two categories:

Either they are in the midst of the Muslims, the evidences are established upon them at this, and they are considered stubbornly  persistent, negligent, not excused, and the claim of them being ignorant is invalid.

Or they are in far away remote areas, this one is ignorant and excused, but they are not Muslims, and their ruling is that of the people of Al-Fatrah and they are going to be tested.

◾️The Allaamah Ishaaq bin Abdurrahman has relayed a Consensus in -Takfeer Al-Mu'ayyan (p.8-9)- upon that the people of Al-Fatrah are Mushriks, and not Muslims.

And the Imams of the Da'wah have clarified that this ruling in these statements encompasses those that attribute to Islam and others, and I have relayed from the speech of the Imams in "The sound advice" (p.14 v.1 onwards) of their establishments that mere attribution of a person to Islam doesn't prevent them being labeled with the title Mushrik if Major Shirk occured from them -whilst they're culpable and intended doing that action- (2).




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(2)  From those that exit with this:

Those that are forced:

(إِلَّا مَنْ أُكْرِهَ وَقَلْبُهُۥ مُطْمَئِنٌّۢ بِٱلْإِيمَٰنِ)
"except for one who is forced while his heart is at rest with faith".
[An-Nahl:106]

As those that are forced with no escape, no actions are attributed to them, similarly those that are mistaken and didn't intend to do the action, as in the Hadith of "the one who made a mistake out of severe happiness", no actions are attributed to them, and they are not culpable - in the Hukm Takleefi (what has been obligated by the legislation) at the point of being forced, and this type of mistake.

As for the ignorant of Tawheed -as established by the Imams- then they are culpable and their actions are attributed to them, and they are called in accordance to what manifests from actions, as for the punishment then they are excused from its application until the point the evidences are established upon them.

And if they died upon this then their ruling will be that of the people of Al-Fatrah those that are tested, as I have explained in detail in "The sound advice".

And Allah is the granter of success.
And I have relayed from Imam An-Najdi, him relaying a Consensus as found in "Ad-Durar As-Saniyyah" (59/10) that the legislative texts the proofs which were revealed regarding the Mushriks of old are applied upon those that attribute to Islam and make Shirk, there is no difference between them in them being aligned to them, due to the reasoning being the ruling, and it is directing worship to other than Allah, and that the point of benefit lies at the generality of the wording and not the specific reason it was revealed.

And this is the "The standing committee" (no.4400) headed by Imam Ibn Baaz -may Allah have mercy upon him- clarifying that those that make Shirk, that they are called Mushriks at their point of making Shirk without establishing the evidences -and their negation of  the establishment of the evidences is clear that it's regarding particulars-.

And they clarified that the establishment of the evidences is only a condition in the application of the worldly punishment and punishment of the fire, and it is not a condition in naming them Mushriks, whereby they said:

"All that believe in the Message of our Prophet Muhammad ﷺ and the rest of what he came with in the legislation, if they were to prostrate after that to other than Allah ... they are considered disbelievers apostates from Islaam, Mushriks having made partners with other than Allah in worship, even if they uttered the two testifications at the time of their prostration.

Due to having perpetrated what nullifies statement by their prostration to other than Allah.

But they are excused due to ignorance so the punishment isn't applied to them until they are informed and the evidences are established upon them.

They are given respite for three days for them to bring themselves to account so perhaps they may repent, if they were to persist (3) in their prostrating to other than Allah after clarification then they are killed for their apostasy, based upon the statement of the Prophet ﷺ:

"Whoever changes their religion kill them".

So clarification and establishment of the evidences is only for them to be excused before the punishment is applied to them, not to call them disbelievers after this clarification, because they are called disbelievers for what has occured from them of prostrating to other than Allah or due to their vowing". End of speech.


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(3) In this is a clarification that the people of knowledge only stipulate persistency for the application of the punishment for the Mushrik, not in them being called a Mushrik, as there is a difference between the two, between naming them and descending the punishment.
And this ruling by them is applied to particulars, because the mention of of ˹Istitaabah˺ requesting to repent is only done regarding particulars as preceded in the speech of Imam Ba Butayn:

"˹Istitaabah˺ is after the ruling of apostasy, and ˹Istitaabah˺ requesting to repent is only done regarding particulars". "Ad-Durar As-Saniyyah" (402/10).

And in their statement: "if they were to persist" is a clarification that the people of knowledge only stipulate persistency in the application of the legal punishment of the Mushrik and not in naming them Mushriks, as there is a difference between naming them and applying the punishment.

◾️And upon this is what Imam Muhammad bin Abdulwahaab -may Allah have mercy upon him- tread upon in his statement:

"Even though we don't make Takfeer of those that worshipped the idol at Al-Badawi and Abdulqaadir due to their ignorance".

In that he only intends with this:

We don't rule upon them the disbelief which necessitates the application of the punishment upon in the worldly life and the punishment in the Hereafter except after the establishment of the evidences, as for naming them Mushriks or Disbelievers due to what relates the apparent, then this is not stipulated in this.

And Imam Muhammad bin Abdulwahaab An-Najdi himself clearly stated this.

An example of this is as found in "Ad-Durar As-Sanniyyah" (522/1) and (534/12):

"The type of those Mushriks of who worship the Awliya and the righteous:

- We declare that they are Mushriks.
- We see them to have Disbelieved when the evidence of the Message is established upon them". End of speech.

Whereby he made a differentiation between naming them Mushriks where he didn't stipulate establishment of the evidences, and making Takfeer of them wherein he stipulated it.

◾️Rather I relayed in "The sound advice" (p.92/93 v.2) four statements from Imam Muhammad bin Abdulwahaab clearly stating therein that those who worship the idol at Abdulqaadir and Al-Badawi (graves) being Mushriks.
Whilst he said regarding them:

"And we don't make Takfeer of them due to their ignorance".

In the statement which many use as an evidence -from them the author- for that he excuses the grave worshippers due to their ignorance, whereby they didn't understand the point of connection of the Takfeer which is intended in his speech.

◾️From the clear statements of Imam Muhammad bin Abdulwahaab An-Najdi in making Takfeer of them and that they are Mushriks is his statement:

1. "And I don't make Takfeer except those that Allah and His Messenger made Takfeer of, the Mushriks the worshippers of the idols, like those that worship the idol which is upon the grave of Abdulqaadir and the idol that is on the grave of Ahmad Al-Badawi, and their likes". "Manhaj At-Ta'sees wat-Taqdees" (p.89).

2. "As is done by the Mushriks today at the grave of Az-Zubayr or Abdulqaadir or others, like was done before this at the grave of Zayd and others". "Ad-Durar As-Saniyyah" (62/10).

And this is a ruling on particulars (not just generally stating this), as found in his statement:

"As is done by the Mushriks today".

And on page 13 there will come a clear statement from him applying the ruling upon particulars in clear-cut manifest affairs.

So these are a few clear statements from this Imam regarding their Takfeer - and there are more in "The sound advice" (p.91-93 v2), and they will be -with the permission of Allah- an aid for our brother the author, and others, to understand the subject matter, and the methodology of the Imams, and understanding of their terminologies in this subject matter.

And what adds clarity to this affair:

◾️The rebuke of the Imams like his grandson, Ishaaq bin Abdurrahman -and others- upon those that attribute to his grandfather that he didn't declare the grave worshippers as particulars as being Mushriks, and he is most knowledgeable of the beliefs of his grandfather than others.
He said in his treatise entitled "The ruling of making Takfeer on particulars":

"It has reached us and we have heard, a group from those that claim knowledge and religion!! From those that are per the claim of theirs!! Take the Shaykh Muhammad bin Abdulwahaab as an example:

That those that make Shirk with Allah and worship idols are not labelled with disbelief and Shirk as particulars!!".

Then he refutes the usage of his grandfather's speech in his negation of Takfeer of those that worship the idol at the grave of so-and-so as proof, and negated there being an evidence for those that excuse them in the ruling of them being Mushriks.

◾️And the likes of this was clarified by the grandchild of the Imam An-Najdi, the Allaamah Abdullateef bin Abdurrahman -may Allah have mercy upon them all- and he is most knowledgeable of his grandfather and what he has established, than others:

In that some wrongdoers have taken the attribution of this to their grandfather as a doubt and a shield to reject the proofs, and as a refutations upon the people of the truth, saying:

"As for the Iraqi and his wrongdoing brethren, they have brought a doubt that the Shaykh doesn't make Takfeer upon the ignorant, and that he says: "They are excused".

And they generalised the statement and didn't elaborate, and they made this doubt a shield warding away with it the Qur'anic verses and Prophetic Hadiths, and they screamed with it against those that worship Allah alone, as occured to their predecessors by the grave worshippers and the Mushriks". "Al-Manhaaj" (p.227).

◾️ Similarly what those that are mistaken in this subject matter didn't take into consideration, is the lack of their paying attention to the categorisation of the Salaf of the affairs to clear-cut and obscured.

Because what is mentioned in his speech, and the speech of Ibn Taymiyyah and others of the Imams of the Da'wah - which was mentioned by the author and others - contains that establishment of the evidence is only at obscured affairs, as for clear-cut affairs they make Takfeer for this unrestrictedly - in what includes particulars and those that are ignorant without making establishment of the proofs -.

And from those that established this categorisation of clear-cut affairs and obscured affairs, in this subject matter, from the Imams of the Salaf is:

-Imam Ash-Shaafi'i -may Allah have mercy upon him- in "Ar-Risaalah" (p.357).
-And Imam At-Tabari -may Allah have mercy upon him- whereby he clarified in "At-Tabseer fi Ma'aalimid-Deen" (p.112- 119) that ignorance of Tawheed:

"And something which the ignorant disbelieves with through ignorance". End of speech.

And also from his establishments is:

His statement in "his Tafseer" at the statement of the most high in Surah Al-A'raaf:

(فَرِيقًا هَدَىٰ وَفَرِيقًا حَقَّ عَلَيْهِمُ ٱلضَّلَٰلَةُۗ إِنَّهُمُ ٱتَّخَذُوا۟ ٱلشَّيَٰطِينَ أَوْلِيَآءَ مِن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ وَيَحْسَبُونَ أَنَّهُم مُّهْتَدُونَ)
"A group [of you] He guided, and a group deserved [to be in] error. Indeed, they had taken the devils as allies instead of Allah while they thought that they were guided."
[Al-A'raf:30]

Indeed the group that deserved to be in error only went astray from the path of Allah, and deviated from the clear path by their taking the devils as helpers and supporters, out of ignorance by them, out of mistake due to what they were upon of this, rather they did this thinking they were upon guidance and truth, and what they were upon is what is correct, and this is from the clearest of indicators for the incorrectness of the statement by those that claim that Allah doesn't punish anyone for a sin which they commited or misguidance which they took as belief except if they do it after knowledge has come to them of what is in fact correct, and then they do it anyway out of stubbornness towards their lord.

This is because if this was the case there wouldn't be difference between the group of misguidance that went astray whilst thinking they were upon guidance, and the group of guidance.

And Allah has made a difference between them in their names and in their rulings in this verse". End of speech.
-Some people use the mention of some of the people of knowledge that this differentiation (i.e clear-cut and obscured) is relative, as a means to reject this categorisation, and as you have come to know there are Imams from the Salaf and Shuyuukh of Islaam after them upon this.

And this relativity is not taken into consideration in what relates to Tawheed and its opposite Major Shirk which are the two greatest affairs which the Books and the Messengers and Prophet's have clarified, so how can their affair be relative?!

-This is exactly the speech of the Shuyuukh-Ul-Islaam: Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Abdulwahaab and Ibn Baaz and others, and the Imams those that are most knowledgeable of their speech have clarified that this is their intent:

◾️ Shaykh-Ul-Islaam Muhammad bin Abdulwahaab -may Allah have mercy upon him- said:

"A person as a particular, if they were to say what necessitates disbelief, there is no ruling upon them of Disbelief until the evidences are established upon them which they disbelieve by, and this is in the obscured affairs which the proofs thereof could go obscured to some of the people ... as for what occurs from them in clear-cut affairs, manifest affairs, or what is known from the religion by necessity, then here there is no withholding from the Disbelief of the one that says it". "Ad-Durar As-Saniyyah" (433/10).

Whereby they clarified that the particulars are declared disbelievers and there is no withholding from declaring them disbelievers in the affairs which are clear-cut manifest, and at the top of this is Tawheed, contrary to obscured hidden affair where it's stipulated that there is establishment of the proof.
◾️ Shaykh-Ul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah -may Allah have mercy upon him- said:

"...for this reason we make Takfeer of the rejector of the manifest agreed upon rulings even if they were laymen, contrary to what's obscured". "Al-Mustadrak Ala Majmuu' Al-Fataawa" (254/2).

◾️And Imam Ibn Baaz -may Allah have mercy upon him- said:

"Ignorance is in what could go obscured, as for the affairs which are manifest in the religion the ignorant are not excused in, like the affairs of Tawheed, and the affairs of the prayer ... as for what someone could be ignorant of like some of the Attributes, some Attributes of Allah that went obscured upon them, or someone didn't know that they were attributes of Allah so negated it, then he knew and it was clarified to them, they don't disbelief through this, because in the likes of this could be ignorant of some of the Attributes". "Majmuu' Fataawa Ibn Baaz (227/28).

So they clearly stated making a differentiation in that a layman and an ignorant person could become disbeliever by rejecting the manifest agreed upon affairs and at the top of this is Tawheed.

◾️And Imam Aba Butayn -may Allah have mercy upon him- said:

"Look at his differentiation -meaning Ibn Taymiyyah- between the statements which are obscured and the affairs which are manifest, and he said regarding the affairs which are disbelief and are obscured:

It could be said that they are mistakenly misguided, the evidences have not been established upon them which they become disbelievers for.

And he didn't say this regarding the clear-cut affairs, so his speech is clear in the making a differentiation between the affairs which are manifest and that which are obscured.

Whereby making Takfeer for the affairs which are it's ruling is manifest unrestrictedly, and for what occurs from a Muslim out of ignorance: like permitting the impermissible, and doing or saying something which is Shirk after being told.

And he doesn't make Takfeer in the obscured affairs due to ignorance, like ignorance in some of the Attributes". "Ad-Durar As-Saniyyah" (373/10).

Look at his statement:

"Whereby making Takfeer for the affairs in which its ruling is manifest unrestrictedly, and for what occurs from a Muslim out of ignorance".

This is clear in it encompassing both the ignorant and particulars.

-As for what we have relayed from the Allaamah Ibn Baaz and the Allaamah Al-Fawzaan regarding the subject matter of the Consensus, it is very clear there is no interpretation in it.
Similarly their establishments in this subject matter, they are many it is not possible for a writer to hide them all, and it has preceded that I have relayed a few, and also from it is:

◾️That he was asked -may Allah preserve him-:

Those that worship graves, and direct some actions of worship to the person in the grave, so we declare them as disbelievers as particulars or is it a must that the conditions are met and preventing matters are removed?

Whereby the Shaykh replied:

"If the evidences have reached him, the Da'wah reaches him, the Qur'an reached them, then there is no excuse:

(وَأُوحِىَ إِلَىَّ هَٰذَا ٱلْقُرْءَانُ لِأُنذِرَكُم بِهِۦ وَمَنۢ بَلَغَۚ)
"And this Qur'an was revealed to me that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches."
[Al-An'am:19]

So whoever the Qur'an reaches, and they understand its language, Arabic, then the evidences are established upon them, they are then made Takfeer off as particulars as individuals, yes, due to what their actions necessitates, their Shirk, their worshipping of other than Allah, whilst the Qur'an which prohibits from Shirk and commands the worshipping of Allah alone has reached them, whereby they are negligent in them not reflecting over the Qur'an nor learning the Qur'an". End of speech from "Sharh Tajreed At-Tawbeed Al-Mufeed lil-Maqreezi" (lesson:1, minute:58).

◾️From it is that the Allaamah Saalih Al-Fawzaan -may Allah preserve him- was asked:

Is this statement correct: "All those that fall into a nullifier from amongst the nullifiers of Islam, we don't rule upon any person in particular", meaning we don't say: "You are a Disbeliever", instead we rule upon their actions and their statements that it is disbelief?

To which he replied:

"This is the statement of the Murji'ah, you are repeating the speech of the Murji'ah to us, this is the speech of the Murji'ah, rather we implement upon them the ruling of what their action or statement necessitates, there is nothing upon us except the outward, we don't search for other than what's apparent, whoever does disbelief we declare them as disbelievers, whoever does Shirk we declare them as Mushriks, there is nothing upon us except the outward, as for the hearts none but Allah knows what's in it.

Tayyib, so now if they were to supplicate to other than Allah and worship the graves and tombs and then die upon this, do you wash them?! Do you pray upon them whilst they are Mushriks, do you bury them in the cemetery of the Muslims whilst they are Mushriks?!

There is nothing upon you except the outward affair, except if they were ignorant they doesn't know, and their likes can be ignorant of this affair then we excuse for ignorance (4) as for us saying: "We consider this disbelief but the one who done it isn't a disbeliever", how can they do disbelief and not be a disbeliever, how can they say a statement of disbelief and not be a disbeliever?! Yes.

The questioner says: "And upon particulars? Are the conditions of Takfeer necessary and them being met?".

Whereby he -may Allah preserve him- replied:

"Particulars and non-particulars, only the outward is upon us O brothers, only the outward is upon us, we rule upon the people with what appears from them, as the inward and the hearts, none but Allah knows it".


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(4) Meaning: the excuse is in the application of the punishment upon them in the Dunya, and ruling upon them to being punished in the Hereafter, and for this reason he said: "the inward and the hearts, none but Allah knows it", as for the ruling upon particulars and naming them Mushriks, then this is another affair for this reason he said at his ruling: "Particulars and non-particulars". And Allah is the granter of success.
◾️The speech of Imam Abu Muhammad Al-Hassan bin Ali bin Khalaf Al-Barbahaari (died.329H) -may Allah have mercy upon him- the Shaykh of the Hanaabilah in his time, and he is one of the major Imams of Ahlussunnah who met from the Salaf a congregation of the companions of Imam Ahmad and others, and at the forefront of them Imam Al-Marudhi, and accompanied Imam Sahl bin Abdillah At-Tustari.

From what he said in "Sharhus-Sunnah" (p.64) in the clarification of this:

"And we don't exit anyone from the people of Al-Qiblah from Islaam except by the rejection of a verse from the book of Allah, or rejects something from Athaar of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, or slaughters to other than Allah, or prays to other than Allah, if they do anything of this then it becomes obligatory upon you to exit them from Islaam". End of speech.

And the context of this speech is clear in it being regarding particulars.
◾️The fatwa of the Allaamah Abdullah bin Humaid -from the contemporaries of Ibn Baaz may Allah have mercy upon them both-:

Whereby he was asked regarding who performs Tawwaaf around the graves, and request assistance, do we say this is a disbeliever or that their action is disbelief?


The Shaykh: "We say that your action is disbelief and this also necessitates your disbelief also, this particular action is disbelief, we say this action is disbelief and they are a disbeliever due to their action, we state on them that you are disbeliever due to your action, as you diverted worship to other than Allah, if they were to die upon this condition they wouldn't be washed not prayed over nor would their Muslim relatives inherit from them.

And if they didn't die their wives would become disconnected from them, even if he said it a thousand times because it is from the same angle as praying without Wudhu, the prayer is not right without Wudhu ...

And this person is saying Laa Ilaha Illallah but he is corrupting it and nullified its meaning by seeking aid from other than Allah..". End of speech from "Sharh Kashfush-Shubuhaat" (tape no.2).

◾️We also relay to the writer and others of our brothers, from the Allaamah Ibn Utheymeen -may Allah have mercy upon him- -who a number of those that haven't pinpointed his position use as an evidence in this subject matter- some clear statements on him ruling on particulars of the grave worshippers being Mushriks.

From it is:

1- That he was asked regarding a Muslim who makes Shirk with Allah, whereby he replied:

"Calling this man who is vowing to the graves and Awliyaa and is invoking them, calling him a Muslim is ignorance of what is being called, his reality is that this isn't a Muslim because he is a Mushrik, Allah the most high said:

(وَقَالَ رَبُّكُمُ ٱدْعُونِىٓ أَسْتَجِبْ لَكُمْۚ إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ يَسْتَكْبِرُونَ عَنْ عِبَادَتِى)
"And your Lord said: "Invoke Me, [i.e. believe in My Oneness (Islâmic Monotheism) and ask Me for anything] I will respond to your (invocation). Verily! Those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness, (Islâmic Monotheism)]"
[Ghafir:60]".

From his website "Fataawa Nuur Alad-Darb" (tape no.28).

This ruling is real and manifest in the Shaykh applying this to a specific and particular man (not just generally): "...this man...".

And he applied certain verses upon him which were revealed upon the first Mushriks, contrary to those that apply it upon the original disbelievers!!
2- He also said:

"It has become mixed up upon some students, they are currently saying: "If you see one that doesn't pray don't make Takfeer of him as a particular".

How do we not declare him as a particular to be a Disbeliever? If you see someone prostrating to an idol you don't make Takfeer upon him as a specific person?! Because maybe his heart could be at rest with Eemaan?! This is a great mistake.

We rule with what? upon the outward, if we find a person not praying, we say: "This is a disbeliever" with all that our mouths can utter with, if we see someone prostrating to an idol we say: "This is a disbeliever", we specify them, and make them abide to the rulings of Islaam, if he doesn't then we kill him (i.e the Waliy-ul-Amr), as for what relates the Hereafter, we don't testify to anyone specifically, not with Jannah nor the fire, except those that the Prophet ﷺ testified for, or it came in the Qur'an". "At-Tafseer" (403/1).

Whereby he -may Allah have mercy upon him- made a difference in these two statements between making the ruling based upon the outward and calling this person who was being asked about a Mushrik and he clarified it is from ignorance to call him a Muslim due to their mere attribution to Islaam.

As for the ruling of the Hereafter then their affair is to Allah.

3- That he was asked -may Allah have mercy upon him- as found in "Fataawa Nuur Alad-Darb lil-Utheymeen" (4/2 shamila):

In our village there is an Imam of a Masjid who calls the people to ˹Istighaatha˺ beseeching for help to other than Allah, from the dead and he believes that this is from the affairs which bring the people closer to Allah the most high, so what's the ruling of Islam regarding this man, and what is the ruling of the prayer behind him?

Whereby he -may Allah have mercy upon him- replied:

"This man who is calling to the ˹Istighaatha˺ to other than Allah is a Mushrik a caller to evil, and it is not correct for him to be an Imam for the Muslims, nor to pray behind him, and upon him is to repent to Allah the mighty and majestic before death befalls him.

˹Istighaatha˺ is not done except to Allah alone, and ˹Istighaatha˺ is done with someone living capable to grant you aid from severity, as it comes in the statement of Allah the most high:

(فَٱسْتَغَٰثَهُ ٱلَّذِى مِن شِيعَتِهِۦ عَلَى ٱلَّذِى مِنْ عَدُوِّهِۦ)
"And the one from his faction called out to him for help to him against the one from his enemy".
[Al-Qasas:15]

As for ˹Istighaatha˺ with the dead, then this is Major Shirk and expels from the religion, and I from this podium am calling this man to repent to Allah the mighty and majestic, and to know that ˹Istighaatha˺ to the dead don't bring one closer to Allah, rather it is what brings you away from Allah the mighty and majestic, and whoever makes Istighaatha with the dead falls under the statement of Allah the most high:

(إِنَّهُۥ مَن يُشْرِكْ بِٱللَّهِ فَقَدْ حَرَّمَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ ٱلْجَنَّةَ وَمَأْوَىٰهُ ٱلنَّارُۖ وَمَا لِلظَّٰلِمِينَ مِنْ أَنصَارٍ)
"Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers."
[Al-Ma'idah:72]

End of speech.

This, and some of the Dr.'s in the Ibn Mas'uud University [KSA] and he's from the students of the Allaamah Ibn Utheymeen -may Allah have mercy upon him- has written a good article entitled:

"Pinpointing the position of Shaykh Muhammad bin Utheymeen on the abandoner of Tawheed".

Reconciling therein between his statements by way of bringing all of his speech together - in the correct manner - not Hamlul-Mujmal Alal-Mufassal - in a manner which clarifies to all that are unbiased that the Allaamah Ibn Utheymeen is treading upon the path of the rest of the Imams of the Da'wah, and all praise and thanks is to Allah lord of all that exists.
There remains many corrections on what has been written by the brother -may Allah grant him success- surrounding the rest of the Consensuses, and similarly his way of reconciliation between the speech of the scholars and other than this.

And what I have written in this haste -with the permission of Allah- is sufficient to all those that are unbiased, to convince the unbiased -with the permission of Allah- that there is no convincing with the rejection of this Consensus.

And returning to the truth is virtuous not belittling..

Rather the putting out of these likes of objections every now and then is a cause in convincing us - and many other students of knowledge with all thanks being Allah- more in affirmation of what we have mentioned of Consensuses and that they are correct and that there's no doubts regarding it, and all virtue is to Allah.

And everything which I have mentioned in this summarisation, is a summarisation of what we have written in "The sound advice" (v.1&v.2).

And I advise myself and our brothers to not being hasty in writing especially in the likes of these intricate affairs which require establishing the branches by extensive contemplation of the evidences of the two Revelations and the books of the Imams, and from them the Imams of the Da'wah Najdiyyah -may Allah have mercy upon them- those that have clarified this subject matter with a curing clarification -with the permission of Allah- for those that want the cure, and I am not claiming knowledge for myself and ignorance for others, it only is:
(إِنْ أُرِيدُ إِلَّا ٱلْإِصْلَٰحَ مَا ٱسْتَطَعْتُۚ وَمَا تَوْفِيقِىٓ إِلَّا بِٱللَّهِۚ عَلَيْهِ تَوَكَّلْتُ وَإِلَيْهِ أُنِيبُ)
"I only intend reform as much as I am able. And my success is not but through Allah . Upon him I have relied, and to Him I return."
[Hud:88]


And Allah is the granter of success.



[Alhamdulilah - End of translation]


📁تشنيف الأسماع بتثبيت ما نقلناه في مسألة عذر جاهل التوحيد من الإجماع (مناقشة علمية مختصرة)

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📢 Notification from the administration of the channel:

Alhamdulillaah wa Ba'd:

Some brothers - may Allah guide them - from the country of Habasha (Ethiopia) or other than it, from those who it has become apparent that they have become strongly affected by the way of Al-Jarboo' and Al-Haazimi.

Shaykh Abu Haatim - may Allah preserve him - doesn't know them nor does he have any communication with them, they have spread some speech which they ascribe to him falsely that he has accused so-and-so by mentioning them specifically, that they're upon the way of the Jahmiyyah and Ibn Jarjees and the likes of that.

And this is from clear lies which has been exposed.

Shaykh Abu Haatim - may Allah preserve him - is not from those who has cowardice and hides with his speech and rulings; and if he believes this concerning anyone then he will not fall short from clarifying it, without any need of it being relayed from him by the likes of these ones in which he has no acquaintance with them.

But that which is clearly apparent is that the warning of Shaykh Abu Haatim from Al-Haazimi and Al-Jarboo' didn't please these ones; so they wanted to incite fitnah.

So we advise them with repentance from this lie, and from rushing after the way of Al-Jarboo' and Al-Haazimi, and those upon their way.

This clarification occured as a form of notification to those whom the likes of this fabricated post has reached.

And Allah is the granter of success.
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Trustworthy advise
In warning from:

The Fitnah of the Khawārij,
Ghulluw in Takfīr,
Extremism in the Religion.

By:
Shaykh Abu Hatim Yusuf Al-'Inaabi Al-Jazaa'iri

May Allah, the Most High, preserve him.

📁النصح الأمين بالتحذير من فتنة الخوارج  والتكفير والغلو في الدين

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بســـم اللــه الرحــمــن الـرحـــيــم

331◾️Exalted are You, [O Allah] this is a great slander◾️

Answered by Shaykh Abu Hatim Yusuf Al-'Inaabi Al-Jazaa'iree - may Allah preserve him -

📥Question:

Voices have started to raise with the labelling of Ahlussunnah, those that rule upon the ignorant worshippers of the idols those that are attributed to Islam as being Mushriks:

As being Takfeeris and being upon the ideology of Dawaa'ish and that they make Takfeer of the Muslim rulers and that they are Jarbuu'iyoon!

Is there an advise regarding this?

📤Answer:

Allah the most high said:

(يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ إِنَّمَا بَغْيُكُمْ عَلَىٰٓ أَنفُسِكُمۖ مَّتَٰعَ ٱلْحَيَوٰةِ ٱلدُّنْيَاۖ ثُمَّ إِلَيْنَا مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَنُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ تَعْمَلُونَ)
"O mankind, your injustice is only against yourselves, [being merely] the enjoyment of worldly life. Then to Us is your return, and We will inform you of what you used to do".
[Yunus:23]

However much the transgressor increased his shouting, which they do to make up for their feebleness, and to convince themselves and those around them that they are correct in their transgression.

And increase their accusations and lies thinking that they are inspiring awe to others.

The people of forbearance are upon conviction that it's only course of a period of time and then it will be unsuccessful.

Based upon His statement exalted is He:

(كَذَٰلِكَ يَضْرِبُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْحَقَّ وَٱلْبَٰطِلَۚ فَأَمَّا ٱلزَّبَدُ فَيَذْهَبُ جُفَآءًۖ وَأَمَّا مَا يَنفَعُ ٱلنَّاسَ فَيَمْكُثُ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِۚ كَذَٰلِكَ يَضْرِبُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْأَمْثَالَ)
"Thus Allah presents [the example of] truth and falsehood. As for the foam, it vanishes, [being] cast off; but as for that which benefits the people, it remains on the earth. Thus does Allah present examples".
[Ar-Ra'd:17]

And we are upon certainty of the promise of Allah the most high -and His promise is the truth- that the transgressor who is lying will be cut short, and they will become an admonishment to others.

And those that are unbiased know that it's just turns in every Fitnah, they make an appearance and then quickly they disappear, with the virtue of Allah and then the warding of the advisers, like was the case with the previous ones:

(فَٱعْتَبِرُوا۟ يَٰٓأُو۟لِى ٱلْأَبْصَٰرِ)
"So take warning, O people of vision".
[Al-Hashr:2]

And what's mentioned in the question is an evident lie, and a clear untruth, it is mere:

أقاويل لا تعـزى إلى عالـم فلا                                     تُساوي فُليسا إن رجعت إلى النقد
Statements which are not attributed to a scholar so they don't value even a small penny when it comes to critique.

▪️As for Al-Jarbuu': then he is a deviant, with us and with others of the advisers, before many of these people came to know of him.

▪️As for the Dawaa'ish: then we warned from them in an article which has been spread when some of them were deceived by them and saying: one becomes happy for them!!

▪️And the methodology of Takfeer: we dismantled this -with the virtue of Allah- in writing and in sermons and lectures.

And Allah and His righteous slaves declared us innocent from their ideology, and one of the major courts in the country testified for our, and our brother's, innocence.

▪️And we refuted Doctor Rabee when he manifested Takfeer of the Muslim rulers, at a time when many pens became frozen.

▪️We haven't incited the people against the Muslim rulers openly upon the Minbar, as was done by some of those that accuse now Ahlussunnah of being Jarbuu'is!!

Rather we warned form this, and other avenues of trials and revolting, and this is our situation in ever Fitnah, and praise is to Allah.

➡️But it is upon Ahlussunnah to pay attention to what's mentioned in the question, it isn't mere accusing a single person of these things by those people that say this.

➡️Rather it is accusing the creed of numerous individuals from the Salaf and the Imams of the Da'wah up until Ibn Baaz and Al-Fawzaan, and other than them!!
➡️Rather the Imam the Mufti Abdullah Aba Butayn -may Allah have mercy upon him- narrated a Consensus of the scholars upon what is now being described by these people as the ideology of the Khawaarij and the Dawaa'ish:

"All that are doing that today at these graves, are Mushrik Disbeliever without doubt, by proof from the Qur'an and the Sunnah and Consensus.

And we know that those that do this who attribute to Islam, haven't found themselves falling in this except due to ignorance, if they knew that this distance away from Allah with the utmost distancing, and that it was the Shirk which Allah forbade, they wouldn't proceed upon it, so all the scholars declared them as disbelievers and they didn't excuse them for ignorance, as is being said by some misguided individuals:

They are excused because they are ignorant". End of speech from "Ad-Durar As-Saniyyah" (405/10).

➡️In the clarification of describing the ignorant worshippers of the idols with Islam, Imam Sulayman bin Sahman -may Allah have mercy upon him- said in "Kashful-Ghiyaab" (p.93):

"Rather Islam, and the grave idol worshippers don't combine, like Muhammad being truthful and Abu Jahl being truthful doesn't combine in a believers heart!!

By Allah it will won't come together and they won't meet
Untill the middle of the crows head starts to grow grey hairs". End of speech.

➡️Look -may Allah protect you- in the speech of the Imams of the Da'wah, the Horsemen of Tawheed, the flag-bearers of the Manhaj of the Salaf, to know that they are the ones that are being intended not others, with the accusation of the ideology of Takfeer and Dawaa'ish.

➡️But they are too coward to accuse them straight forward, so they accuse those that follow their creed.

➡️Those that you have seen are accusing -those who are from Ahlussunnah and its callers- with having the ideology of Takfeer and Da'ishiyyah, because they say regarding the ignorant idol worshippers "Mushrik"** as Allah said regarding them.

Know that they are only intending those Imams and their creed, so be attentive to this.

➡️We have started hearing there are those that accuse the Allaamah Al-Fawzaan being soiled by the innovated ideology of the Al-Hawaali!!

➡️And accusing the Imams of the Da'wah of newly introducing and opposing the Consensus of the Salaf!!

So praise Allah for having well-being.

How much did Imam Muhammad bin Abdulwahaab and the Imams of the Salafi Da'wah, before him and after him, endure these accusations of the enemies of the Da'wah, in their labeling them: Khawaarij and Takfeeris.

- Due to them ruling upon the worshippers of idols of being "Mushriks".

Using as an evidence that they are Muslims, pray, fast and make Hajj!!

How much does today resemble yesterday!!

Regarding them, and those that resemble them, Imam Muhammad bin Abdulwahaab -may Allah have mercy upon him- said:

"If we make Takfeer of those that say: "Abdulqaadir and the Awliya bring about benefit and bring about harm", they say: "You have made Takfeer of the people of Islam"!!

And if we make Takfeer of those that invoke Shamsaan and Taaj and Hattaab, they say: "You have made Takfeer of the people of Islam!!". "Majmuu' Mualifaatihi" (3/52).

Imam Suleymaan bin Sahmaan -may Allah have mercy upon him- said in refutation on some of those that misplace the speech of Shaykh-Ul-Islaam:

"If the speech was regarding the Jahmiyyah and the grave worshippers and the Ibaadiyyah, and that they fall under the speech of the Shaykh, the reply to this has preceded, with Ahlussunnah they are disbelievers, but it is known by necessity that entering them into the speech of the Shaykh is an evident lie, and a clear untruth, which there is no doubt regarding this with those that know their right from their left.

Whoever makes Takfeer of them is not from amongst the Khawaarij and the Rawaafidh who make Takfeer of the Muslim rulers due to what they believe they were mistaken in.

Because indeed the Jahmiyyah, and the grave worshippers, and the Ibaadiyyah, are not from the Muslim rulers". "Kashfush-Shubahatayn" (p.68).
➡️And whoever doesn't make a difference between making Takfeer of the idol worshippers and between the Takfeer of the Khawaarij of the rulers, thus accusing the noble Ahlussunnah with their Madhab, has exposed themselves and manifested the severity of their ignorance.

Imam Abdullateef bin Abdurrahman bin Hassan bin Abdulwahaab -may Allah have mercy upon them- said in refutation of the stupidity of those that accuse Ahlussunnah with the Madhab of the Khawaarij:

"If making Takfeer of the Mushrik, and those proofs have been established that they are disbelievers, was the Madhab of the Khawaarij, and nobody becomes a disbeliever with Ahlussunnah.

Then this is confuting Allah and His Messengers and all the people of knowledge and Eemaan.

And this suffices as a rebuttal and a exposing of this objector who didnt discern and make a difference between the religion of the Messengers and the Madhab of the Exiters the Renegades". "Misbaah Adh-Dhalaam" (p.593-594).

➡️And all unbiased Salafis know the difference between:

1- The Takfeer of the Khawaarij - from them is the Dawaa'ish and the Takfeeris- of the Muslims and their rulers due to what is beneath Major Shirk of sins.

2- And between Ahlussunnah making Takfeer of the people of Shirk from the idol and grave worshippers.

➡️The first is a despicable innovation.

➡️The second is a great act of obedience.

➡️The Imams have clarified for us the condition of those that insult Ahlussunnah -those that rule upon the ignorant grave worshippers that they are Mushriks- by way of nicknames:

And call them Takfeeris and Dawaa'ish.

In that they are:

Deceivers, diverting away from the path of Allah, those that want it crooked.

➡️Many Imams have taken it upon themselves to refute this lie, from them Imam Suleymaan bin Sahmaan -may Allah have mercy upon him- whereby he said in nullification of their lie from the core -so focus your attention to this!-:

"As for what this objector has mentioned that [it is not permissible to make Takfeer of a Muslim due to a sin that they did or a mistake that they made, like the subject matter where there the people of the Qiblah have differed in] until the end of what he mentioned.

The answer to this is that it's said:

This is the truth and correct, there is no doubt regarding this, none make Takfeer for sins except the Khawaarij and the Rawaafidh, as has been previously mentioned from Shaykh-Ul-Islaam.

◾️So the basis of Takfeer is that it's from the Khawaarij that make Takfeer of the Muslim rulers for mistakes they commited, and in what they [the Khawaarij] think is a mistake but in reality is not a mistake, and they are twenty sects ...

◾️As for the worshippers of the graves, then with Ahlussunnah they are called ˹Al-Ghaaliyyah˺ the extreme, due to their resemblance with the Nasaarah in their going extreme regarding the Prophets and the Awliyah and the righteous.

◾️Whoever makes Takfeer of them, and manifested animosity to them, and hating them, and warned from sitting with them, and extensively makes people flee from them, has:

Followed the path of the believers.
Has tread in the path of the rightly guided Imams.
Opposed what was taken onboard by the Khawaarij and the Rawaafidh of making Takfeer of the Muslims.

◾️And whoever makes the making Takfeer of these people, like the those people make Takfeer, then they are:

- From the deceivers.
- From those that divert away from the path of Allah.
- those that want it crooked.

I seek refuge with Allah from the ˹Raan˺ stains of sins, and the regression of the hearts". End of speech

And for the elaboration in rebuttal of this lie, will be another sitting, In-Sha-Allah.

So praise Allah for well-being.
And As-Salaam.

Answered by:
Abu Hatim Al-Jazaairee.
May Allah uplift his worries and be for him in the two abodes.
29 Muharram 1445H


📁 سبحانك هذا بهتان عظيم

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Translated by:
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